greitens resigns amid misconduct probes. transcript: 05/30/2018. the rachel maddow show

Guest of May 30, 2018: The last sentence of Mark Thompson\'s date with Lawrence O\'Donnell; Melissa Mark-Viverto;
Host: Rachel, good evening, Clarence Page, Lawrence O\'Donnell, Michael Avanti.
We will discuss Harvard research later this hour.
This includes deaths after a hurricane, because people do not receive medical care during the hurricane and many months after the hurricane, and people do not have access to life.
Maintain health care.
So many of these deaths actually happened a few months after the hurricane, but if it weren\'t for the hurricane, they wouldn\'t have happened.
Rachel maddow, MSNBC host: Yes.
This is how the number of deaths caused by these things should be counted.
You should take into account factors such as the loss of health care.
You know, utility disruptions and other things that are directly caused by storms related to storm deaths.
So, these things are calculated a few months later, and that\'s part of how it should go.
O\'Donnell: Yes, it\'s estimated to be the deadliest storm in American history.
The president gave himself-
The way the government responds is graded.
Yes, he gave himself an-
Plus everything.
O\'Donnell: he is an easy grade student for himself.
Thank you, Lawrence.
Thanks, Rachel.
Two and a half weeks, June 15.
This is a new deadline for Donald Trump\'s lawyers and Michael Cohen\'s lawyers to review all the evidence obtained by the FBI during the raid on Michael Cohen\'s home, office and hotel rooms.
By June 15, Donald Trump and Michael Cohen must submit all requests for their protection of the lawyer/client privileged communications disclosed in these documents.
Counsel for Michael Cohen said today that this is not possible.
He told Judge Kimba Wood that he had 15 lawyers to screen all the evidence full time.
We are moving the world, he said.
We have people working all night.
We have people sleeping on our sofas and offices.
We have people working throughout the Memorial Day weekend.
I had a colleague yesterday who felt a tremor in his hand due to lack of sleep.
I had to send him home last night.
He came back at 7: 30 this morning.
We work 24 hours a day.
Judge Kimba Wood did not move.
Federal prosecutors are demanding a deadline.
On June, counsel for Michael Cohen and Donald Trump requested that the deadline be metJuly.
Judge Wood said, okay, in the middle.
The date was June.
In the lifetime of Michael Cohen, he never had as big a bill as he was going to face, because there were 15 lawyers working 24 hours and hundreds of dollars per hour. These are high-
New York City lawyer pricing.
If Michael Cohen had reportedly had to come up with a home equity loan to get $130,000 to repay the silence of stomi Daniels, michael Cohen will have to sell everything he pays for the 15 lawyers who work around the clock.
Or, alternatively, he can stop paying those fees tomorrow, or, in any case, stop paying most of them and start working with the FBI and federal prosecutors to answer their transactions about him and Donald Trump and
So if you\'re Donald Trump tonight, on Twitter about Ross Anne Barr, if you\'re Donald Trump, what are you really worried about, can Michael Cohen continue to pay for this £ 15? priced lawyers?
Setting a deadline is the main reason for today\'s opening in the Southern District of New York.
Another thing that is being considered is the first guest of Michael avenati, counsel for stomi Daniel, who requests to grant him the right to participate in that legal process in order to protect stomi Daniel
This could happen in Michael Cohen\'s investigation.
As an example of Michael Avenatti\'s concern, he told the judge that he had received a call from reporters. Mr.
Avenatti said: Your Honour, I received a call last week from a media member who asked me to comment on the recordings that the media members apparently heard.
This is a recording between the gentlemen. Cohen and Mr.
My client\'s former lawyer, Davidson.
In that discussion,
Davidson disclosed his lawyer/client privilege communication with my client.
Later, outside the court, after Michael Cohen\'s lawyers admitted that the recordings might exist, Michael avenati referred to the recordings as Trump tapes. (
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Michael avenatti, lawyer for stormy daniels: just like the Nixon tape a few years ago, we now have what I call the Trump tape. Mr.
Ryan admits that Michael Cohen has been recording recordings for many years, quoting him that they not only exist but are locked, some of them have to do with my client and her lawyer/client privileged communications. Mr.
Mr. Cohen and his lawyer.
Ryan, all these recordings should be released to the American people and Congress so that everyone can hear them. (END VIDEO CLIP)
O\'Donnell: Judge Wood told Michael avenati that it would change his behavior if she did formally grant him the right to participate in court proceedings.
Judge Wood told
This means that you have to stop doing something that you have been doing.
If you attend here, you will not be able to give your opinion on the Sir
You did Cohen\'s guilt.
You will not be able to promote documents that are not public.
This will change your behavior. This is what I am doing.
Cohen\'s lawyers hope that this is basically a stop to the propaganda tour on television and elsewhere.
I\'m not talking about a derogatory propaganda tour.
You have the right to make it public, as long as it is-I cannot stop you unless you are involved in this matter before me.
When one of Michael Cohen\'s lawyers, Steven Ryan, discussed the recordings that Michael avenati had told the judge, he said that if we posted those recordings to reporters, this will be the biggest story in America.
Never happened.
The tapes we have related to him, if any, under the lock and keys, controlled by my law firm, the Trump Organization, and the president of the United States, in the case of a request for privilege that may be relevant to them.
I don\'t know if there is any release for This audio file.
Michael Avenatti told the judge that the number one suspect who released a recording of Michael Cohen\'s conversation was Michael Cohen.
He told the judge that the reporter told him that the recording must have been quoted by him.
Cohen or someone associated with him.
Cohen recently provided this to the media in an attempt to portray a false narrative about my client or Mr.
Davidson or whatever.
In court, Michael avenati reflected on Michael Cohen\'s lawyer\'s disclosure today that Michael Cohen\'s recordings were locked and keys, thus ending his comments on the judge. Mr.
Avenatti told the judge: Your Honour, I would like to point out that my concerns are now confirmed. Mr.
Ryan said there were recordings related to my clients and they were locked.
He said so on the record.
Confirmed now.
This has attracted considerable attention.
I will digest these concerns.
We will act appropriately.
But if there is a recording of the lawyer/client privilege information disclosed by a former lawyer of my client, it is very important for me and my client, Your Honour, we will work with the government to resolve this issue and try to reach a resolution.
Following the conclusion of today\'s trial, Michael avenati filed a motion to withdraw his request to formally participate in Judge Wood\'s court evidence process, which Judge Wood said today, citing, if the charge is made against the gentleman, it is a potential pioneer in criminal trialCohen.
Now we are joined by Michael Avenatti, a lawyer for Stormy Daniels.
Now, explain to us your decision to withdraw.
Does this relate to what you said to the judge at the end of your comments today, and you said that you would digest this revelation about the recording there?
No, Lawrence, in fact, it\'s not.
The reason why I withdraw the motion is because we have a motion to intervene in the case where an agreement is reached between US and the government.
It is not necessary for us to continue to accept the motion until it is actually put forward, at what time, if so.
Lawrence, this tape is an important, serious issue for me and my client, O\'Donnell: Can I speak to you about the representation of stomi Daniels in this court
Is there a New York lawyer in court who is associated with you also present? AVENATTI: Yes.
O\'Donnell: So who is going to be responsible in court on behalf of stomi Daniels?
I mean, she-aventati: Yes.
O\'Donnell: whether or not you are granted the right to participate, is her interest represented in court?
You\'re right, Lawrence, 100%. O`DONNELL: OK.
Absolutely.
O\'Donnell: So your withdrawal did not withdraw the statement defending stomi Daniels in that court?
No, no, not all.
And, Lawrence, I don\'t know if in the end we will have to continue because we have been working with the government.
We have a special relationship with the government.
We communicate with the government on this case almost every day, as it relates to documents, etc. , contrary to the false news reports that have been released recently.
So, I don\'t know at the end if we have to formally intervene in this case.
But, let me say this-this revelation today is the result of an issue that we are pushing, that is, in the FBI raid on Michael Cohen, there are recordings that communicate with others, including
Davidson, about my client
I will tell you that we also know that at least one of the recordings is inCohen and Mr.
Trump, we believe there is more than one such recording that is of great interest to us and to the American people I think.
I mean, it seems to me-I know it\'s a big statement, but I\'ll be standing behind it and I have a record to back it up.
This is the second version of Nixon tape a few years ago.
Ultimately, I hope that these recordings will be made public for the American people so that they can hear Mr Obama\'s voiceTrump and Mr.
Cohen exchanged views on a series of issues. And Mr.
Ryan kindly confirmed in the recording today that there was a recording, which was under the quote, lock and key.
We will release them.
We want to release them now.
O\'Donnell: everything you know from these recordings is a phone call from a reporter?
AVENATTI: No, we can get separate information from other sources before I get this call from this reporter.
O\'Donnell: But the only thing you mentioned to the judge in court today is a call from the reporter.
Awinati: That\'s right.
O\'Donnell: Are there any reasons why you didn\'t tell the judge about other sources of information about these recordings?
AVENATTI: Well, because we don\'t need it, Lawrence, because once we-once we \'ve described the reporter\'s call to the court, of course, Sir
Ryan stood up very kindly and admitted that the recordings existed and that they were locked.
So there is no need for us to disclose everything-O\'Donnell: But the word Trump has never been mentioned today.
In court, you never told the judge that Donald Trump was on the tape.
AVENATTI: That\'s right, because the issue is not in front of her in court today.
Therefore, there is no reason to raise this issue before her Honour, and there is no reason to resolve it before the court.
But these tapes still exist. Now, why Mr.
Cohen was very intensive-the conversation he had with him was so intensive.
I can\'t imagine Davidson or someone else during his legal representation.
Now that we know, why did he keep 13-15 phones, the phone that the FBI got was out of my reach.
O\'Donnell: May I ask you why the federal prosecutor did not call these tapes?
The evidence we have heard today is clearly only available to Michael Cohen\'s lawyers.
AVENATTI: No, Lawrence, in fact, our understanding is that the FBI also seized these evidence in the raid.
There are two copies of these tapes. O`DONNELL: OK.
So the FBI has them, then Michael Cohen\'s lawyer.
Awinati: Yes.
O\'Donnell: Rudy Giuliani, apparently reading or getting some coverage of what happened in court today, who is not in court with you today.
He did comment on what happened to you in court today, and he just said that on Fox News.
Let\'s listen. (
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Rudy Giuliani, President Trump\'s Lawyer: Judge Wood, do you know what she did?
She threw the left CNN and msnbc TV star Avenatti out of court.
He is not in the New York court.
He is not moral enough.
Fox News: Mr. Sean hanniti
Do you know why?
Because he\'s a big liar.
He wants to argue with me.
Like he\'s going to argue with me.
He should go to a gin factory to debate. (END VIDEO CLIP)
O\'Donnell: Now, I just want to-because this is a video that is shown on my show and also on Fox News, and I need to point out to the audience that you will respond, but every word he says is a lie.
You were not kicked out of court.
The transcript is here and you have had a very polite exchange with the judge.
The judge with you, you have nothing-no one was kicked out of court today. That`s a lie.
The judge did not say you were not ethical enough.
Counsel for the other party is trying to suggest that there are some ethical issues in the way you handle the media and publish certain information.
So what Rudy Giuliani said was not accurate.
I think that needs to be said even before you respond.
But how do you react to this?
Lawrence, this is so poor.
This is the man, this is the best lawyer-there are a lot of lawyers in the United States.
This is the best lawyer the president can find to represent him in front of the American people.
I mean, the best thing Donald Trump can do for all lawyers in the United States is this guy?
This guy is a well known liar and he can\'t clarify the facts, he doesn\'t know the law and he contradicts himself.
He\'s definitely a clown on TV.
This is a lawyer representing the president of the United States. It\'s a joke.
Any one who looks at my appearance, sees how I behave and what I know about facts and the law, and then compares me to Rudi Giuliani, it is clear, why didn\'t he come to any show with me, obviously why didn\'t he argue with me because he couldn\'t handle it
He will be destroyed.
He knows, the president knows, anyone with common sense knows.
O\'Donnell said: Let\'s join Jill. Banks.
She was an assistant to the special prosecutor for the water gate incident and a contributor to MSNBC.
Jill, I just want to get your reaction to the current situation based on what happened in court today and what we just heard from Rudy Giuliani.
This is a lawyer for US President Fox News, claiming to be Fox News, who allowed a person to say that she had kicked him out of court.
This did not happen.
This is a complete lie.
I can\'t emphasize it.
I don\'t want to-I don\'t want to just, you know, play the comments from Rudy Giuliani and pretend to be these-it\'s just a neutral strip of news that you can comment on. That`s a lie.
Now, it\'s another thing about what Rudy Giuliani is trying to do through it.
But how did you react to all this? JILL WINE-
MSNBC contributor banks: my reaction to Rudy Giuliani\'s comments on Fox tonight was very shocking.
Say in any debate between Michael avenati and Rudy Giuliani, I know who will be the winner, it\'s not Rudy.
He\'s terrible tonight.
He followed in the footsteps of Rosanne Barr, who followed in the footsteps of the president of the United States, calling it a lynching.
I mean, it\'s such an inappropriate act for a lawyer, not to mention the president\'s lawyer, which is really shocking.
The situation in court is also very interesting.
As you have pointed out, his statement about the tribunal is indeed false.
Michael was not kicked out of court.
He withdrew the motion so that it would not be decided.
There are too many things that need to be made public.
The transcript is interesting.
The only difference I have with what Michael has said is that I don\'t think Ryan is very clear when stating that there is a tape or there is a tape involving his client or the president.
The fact that there are tapes under the locks and keys is an answer, I did not leak them, no one in my office can leak them because they are locked and under the keys, just like the federal government caught them.
Michael was right, there were two copies, one in the hands of the government, and he said-Michael said in court that he did not think for a moment that the government had leaked the tape or anything.
So the only tape we know is the one he got a call from a reporter.
We haven\'t heard it, we haven\'t seen it.
I wish I was in court.
It\'s an exciting event today, I\'m sure, and I \'d like to see it live, not just read the transcript.
O\'Donnell: Michael, I think we know that Rudy Giuliani has not read any legal proceedings in the last 30 years.
He is out of the law.
But when I read it to the audience, the record made it very, very clear that a group of lawyers entered the court today and lost.
They are representative lawyers for Michael Cohen and Donald Trump.
They asked for a mid-range. July deadline.
This is their main job in court today.
The deadline for reviewing evidence is July.
In the prosecutor\'s request
The deadline for June was agreed between the judges and the prosecutor and the deadline was set at June 15.
Some lawyers entered the court. They won. Some lawyers entered the court today and lost in today\'s battle.
You\'re not the one who won.
You\'re not a lost man.
You attended the main event there today.
But Rudy Giuliani, a member of Donald Trump\'s legal team, went into court today and lost his case.
There is no doubt, Lawrence.
You know, I don\'t know when the last time Rudy Giuliani heard the case.
I mean, the last time I tried the case was last year, we got a major result in the Federal Court of Los Angeles, the third-largest verdict in the country last year.
I don\'t know when the last time this guy tried the verdict.
I think it was about 20 or 30 years ago.
You know, he\'s
He is an dishonest man. been.
It\'s time for him to hang up.
I mean, this appearance tonight at hanniti is just the latest in his series of awkwardness.
He is destroying his legacy.
The president needs a new lawyer.
He can\'t hire me, but he \'d better give confidence to others and he \'d better do it quickly.
O\'Donnell: Obviously, I think our audience knows that you can handle it yourself in any dispute.
I\'ll show you if anyone wants to criticize you and put it on the video, it\'s legitimate criticism to let you fight it.
But I can\'t allow Fox News to enter the show by the standard of publishing lies on TV.
That\'s why when Rudy Giuliani lied and mentioned you about what happened in court today, I feel like before I throw those lies in here to discuss, it\'s my job to deal with these lies.
But, Michael Avenatti, thank you so much for joining us tonight.
AVENATTI: Thank you.
I really appreciate it. Jill Wine-
Bank, please discuss with us again.
Next, we will have more about Rudy Giuliani\'s investigation into the president tonight.
This time, he referred to the investigators of the special prosecutor as lynching mobs, and went to the new crazy rhetoric extremes.
Rosanne said she quit Twitter yesterday and one of her tweets sent me directly last night, a lie about me.
This explanation is coming soon. (
Business break)
O\'Donnell: Warning to the audience: Rudy Giuliani will lie to you tonight in the Fox News video. (
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Giuliani: We\'re going to challenge Miller and write down with all your 13 Democrats whatever you get and do your best.
Can\'t find a Republican?
Andrew Weisman.
Giuliani: How about an independent person?
How about people you have ethical issues with the Justice Department?
I know because I\'m a tall
Senior officials of the Ministry of Justice.
So, you have a bunch of lynching mobs there. (END VIDEO CLIP)
O\'Donnell: Joyce Vance, a former member of what Rudy Giuliani calls a lynching mob, former U. S.
A lawyer in northern Alabama and a professor at the University of Alabama Law School.
She is also a contributor to MSNBC.
We came back with Jill.
Former federal prosecutor.
Joyce Vance, I would like to hear your reaction to what Rudy Giuliani just said.
Joyce Vance, former United StatesS.
Lawyer: Lawrence, it\'s unbelievable to hear him say that.
You know, I live in Alabama, not many weeks ago, here is the monument to all victims of lynching that took place during the civil rights movement.
These people have been killed without trial, and are usually people who have not done anything wrong.
For Rudy Giuliani, compare Miller\'s team, who are experienced, very professional prosecutors and investigators, you know, peeping at a loophole throughout the investigation, for him, there is no reason to compare these people with Jim Crowe and the lynching mob in the depths of the South in the early days, which is very unpleasant.
O\'Donnell: Jill, the position that special prosecutors have accepted in the past is that they are from the opposition party of the president.
You don\'t want the Democratic special prosecutor to investigate the Democratic president.
So Bill Clinton had a Republican special prosecutor investigate him because it provided credibility for the final result of the investigation. There is no partisan bias towards the president in this investigation.
It seems that Rudy Giuliani now believes that everyone at Fox News now thinks that only Republicans can have the only legitimate special prosecutor\'s investigation into the Republican president. WINE-
This is not true, of course.
Nixon was a Republican president under Democratic investigation.
But Donald Trump, a Republican president, is under Republican investigation.
Mueller is a Republican.
As far as the staff are concerned, I am not aware of their partisan relationship, despite the alleged 13 Democrats.
But I can say for sure that the professionals of the Justice Department, the partisan relationship has nothing to do with how they will investigate.
This is related to the facts.
They will look at the facts and draw conclusions based on them.
I think I heard Rudy say he\'s a senior official at the Justice Department.
I don\'t know that. He was the U. S. attorney.
But Joyce is also a former US president. S.
Lawyer, so she\'s equal to him.
I agree with her.
She is absolutely right.
I think he has learned too much from Ross Anne Barr and Donald Trump in his language.
It is unforgivable to speak like a lawyer representing the president.
O\'Donnell: Rudy Giuliani did work at the Justice Department in Washington before he became president of the United States. S.
Lawyers in southern New York.
Just wanted to see this in the notes here. WINE-BANKS: OK.
O\'Donnell: I \'d like to hear what Rudy Giuliani said, especially what he said to-what he said should be a way to investigate possible collusion.
Of course, he uses the word spy, saying the Trump campaign should be told what the FBI is actually investigating.
Let\'s hear this. (
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Giuliani: of course, they should run for Trump if it\'s not a spy campaign.
They should have come to me.
God, I was the best person for the FBI year that year.
They can come to me and they can tell me that I can brief the president or they can brief the president. (END VIDEO CLIP)
Joyce, how do you react to this?
Vance: It\'s just wrong.
First of all, it will be a highly confidential investigation.
There is no reason to believe that Rudy will have the level of classification needed to share this information with him.
When you conduct an anti-intelligence investigation, you will keep it as strict as possible, because your whole goal is to find out what is happening and then stop it.
You really won\'t seek criminal prosecution in this case, although sometimes they will be deformed, this time apparently.
But the goal of the FBI is to end Russian interference and make sure they don\'t recruit anyone.
If that\'s not enough, they did warn the campaign team.
They told them earlier that they were most likely the subject of Russian efforts and when they started to receive those hits they would call the FBI from Russia
But they did not do so at any time.
When the NRA seeks a reverse channel, not when the Russians meet at Trump Tower, they do not pick up the phone at any time to call the FBI.
O\'Donnell: Jill, the New York Times has a breaking news report tonight about a memo written by former FBI Acting Director Andrew McKay.
This is a memorandum that has not been publicly disclosed before.
In the memo, Andrew mckebe summed up his conversation with Rod Rosenstein about the dismissal of James Comey.
Rod Rosenstein told Andrew McKay in the memo that the president wanted Rod Rosenstein to include some of the things in Rod Rosenstein\'s memo about justifying the dismissal of James ComeyJILL WINE-
Banks, assistant special prosecutor for the former water gate incident: Well, according to the same news report, the reason why he wants to get something there now is just for them to say, i\'m not under investigation for collusion in Russia.
But the whole conversation was very inappropriate.
I think McCabe wrote this memo because he felt something suspicious had happened.
It should not happen.
Another evidence of it is that the president\'s intentions interfere with part of the investigation.
I just want to add one thing to Joyce\'s words, that is, I think it\'s time for Rudy to cheer up and stop talking because he just made the situation for the president worse.
He did not help him.
O\'Donnell: I don\'t think this will happen.
Joyce Vance and Jill Wine
Thank you both for joining us.
Really grateful.
Former federal prosecutor Joyce Vance: Thank you.
O\'Donnell: It took a day for Rosanne Barr to announce that she is now the victim of the scandal.
There\'s another victim, Donald Trump.
He thinks he\'s a victim anyway. (
Business break)
O\'Donnell: I apologize yesterday after Rosanne Barr tweeted.
I left twitter now, and then Rose Anne tweeted more than 100 times, including a tweet that directly accused me of lying. At 10:33 a. m.
Yesterday in New York time, Ross Anne apologized to Valerie Jarrett and all Americans on Twitter.
I\'m really sorry for a bad joke about her politics and looks.
I should know better.
Please forgive me. My jokes taste bad.
In the 7 minutes after that, I tweeted that it looked like the Internet was forced to apologize.
ABC is desperately trying to save its biggest show.
Ross Anne replied to my tweet last night and said no.
It was canceled before I sent this out. Stop lying.
So Rosanne Barr sent me a lie tweet and on that lie tweet she told me not to lie.
Her falsely claimed tweet was sent after ABC canceled her show and was actually sent hours before ABC canceled her show.
Therefore, Ross Anne did not get any boat people on Twitter.
What she said about my lying is nothing compared to her racist attack on Valerie jarette, which got her fired by ABC, even though she was the highest-rated ABC
Yesterday, the White House press secretary said the president was too busy to comment on the Rosanne dispute.
But today, it is clear that state affairs have calmed down and the president has finally had time to tweet about Rosanne.
Of course, he did all this himself.
Bob Igel of ABC called Valerie jarette to let her know that ABC does not tolerate comments like Ross Anne bar.
He never called President Donald J.
Trump apologized for the terrible remarks I made on ABC.
Maybe I just didn\'t get a call.
No one at ABC ever said anything about Donald Trump\'s racist remarks.
But now and the ABC on every trade fair and the people on every network
Now, the news agency thinks Donald Trump is a liar.
Our defense is that this is true.
Donald Trump is a liar, and it is a fact that has been proven repeatedly, and that is the case with his entire public life.
Donald Trump is also racist.
Therefore, Donald Trump\'s public comment on the outbreak of racism in Ross Anne absolutely has no objection to the open racism in Ross Anne.
Is Donald Trump doing this to continue his unique and strong appeal to racist voters, or is it because his racism makes him forget about Rosanne\'s racism?
After the break, I will ask my friends Clarence Page, columnist for The Chicago Tribune, and Mark Thompson of Sirius XM Radio. (
Business break)
O\'Donnell: Today, the day after Rosanne said she was going to quit twitter, Rosanne took the courage from many of her supporters who posted on twitter and Rosanne\'s tweets
You made me feel like fighting back.
I will double check all my options and get back to you.
I can get back to you right now with Rosanne\'s choice.
Any network can cancel any TV show at any time, and there is absolutely no legal recourse for Rosanne, especially in this case.
Join us now to discuss Mark Thompson, the host on Radio Sirius XM and Pulitzer Page, pritce-
The award-winning columnist for The Chicago Tribune.
Clarence, I want to talk about the issues I raised earlier on the president\'s Twitter.
The president tweeted about this situation, and he never mentioned a line against the open and open racism of Rosanne, nor a word.
Why do you think this is the president\'s Twitter?
Clarence Page, the Chicago Tribune: Yes.
I also noticed that Sarah Huckabee
Sanders also said that Rosanne\'s statement was not defended, but she continued to attack as Trump did.
Because this is an undefensible statement.
Even Rosanne said I did something wrong, don\'t try to defend me, I appreciate your efforts, etc.
In fact, the only way Trump can really get out of the woods politically is to keep on attacking and accusing others of doing something so bad.
But, as you mentioned, no one on ABC made the kind of racial supremacy statement that Rose Anne made here.
There\'s not much comparison, but it\'s standard Trump, and it helps him build his own foundation.
O\'Donnell: Mark, even on Fox News tonight, Geraldo Rivera said he wanted the president to say something against what Rosanne did, and of course the president didn\'t.
Now, let\'s say that not all of Trump\'s voters are racist.
But there are racist votes in the United States.
We also see different politicians calling directly for racist votes.
It seems that Donald Trump has never missed the opportunity to call directly on racist votes, and never said anything that would make it a little uncomfortable for racist votes, as Ross Anne should not have said.
Mark Thompson, radio host of Sirius XM: Yes.
He should use his forum like almost the president and have some moral authority.
You\'re right. All of Trump\'s voters are not racist, but in fact most of them are Trump\'s voters.
The last time we saw the president identify with a popular TV show and say it represents all of us, when is it?
This represents us.
His racism is narcissistic, so he did it for him.
This is even what he did last week.
This is the good thing we want.
We want to pardon Jack Johnson, but what is Jack Johnson compared to his career.
He was compared to the political cartoons of the time.
He is compared to an ape and a monkey.
Many people think the movie King Kong is a metaphor for Jack Johnson.
He had another black man who married a white woman.
Trump has just gone above all this and she has shown the racist image of ape in defining the African era
Americans are unforgivable.
He was obliged to say something, and in fact he did not mean that he accepted her statement. You are right.
There is nothing more important about him than this.
It\'s really his responsibility to say something about it, or he\'ll show us again who he really is.
Clarence, we always have to get back to normal.
Can we imagine other presidents commenting on this without condemning what Rosanne said?
That\'s the key, you know.
No condemnation.
This is the same as endorsement.
Sadly, Donald Trump has not done anything in his own favor because every Trump supporter I know has told me a lot that they are not racist.
They always wanted you to know that their vote was not motivated by race.
I think it\'s true for most Trump voters.
They have other financial reasons, or what they will give you, or they are just tired of the Washington system.
But why almost everyone likes hot work (ph)
As Mark said, you will meet people like Rosanne, a proud Trump voter who loves stereo playback.
Something happened there.
O\'Donnell: It\'s not clear whether Mark, Rosanne\'s comment was made by someone who worked at Trump\'s White House, who either apologized or was fired.
This is not clear at all.
If Rosanne\'s job is in the White House, she will still have a job.
Thompson: It\'s not clear at all.
And it\'s not Ambien.
She\'s a golden boy.
They call her our girl. INAUDIBLE).
All these types of sizes.
So she can\'t blame prescription drugs either.
It is very shameful that the president is serving as president of jiaotu.
He\'s using everything.
Everything is dispensable for his own purposes.
He\'s tearing up the NFL.
It\'s shocking that he\'s tearing up culture, television, and anything he can use to promote himself and split the country.
Mark Thompson and Clarence Page, thank you for joining us tonight.
Really grateful.
Thompson: Thank you. Inside page: Thank you.
O\'Donnell: next, as you heard Rachel and I discussed at the beginning of the hour, the official death toll from Hurricane Maria, Puerto Rico, from Hurricane Maria was 64.
But a new study from Harvard University estimates that because recovery and reconstruction are very slow, people are not able to access the health care they need and the health care they cannot sustain, and there are thousands of people in this situation.
President Trump said the same recovery is going well. That`s next. (
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O\'Donnell: President Trump never talked about the number of people killed in last year\'s hurricane in Puerto Rico, but he did give himself-
Coupled with the government\'s response. (
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US President Donald Trump: We got it in Texasplus.
I tell you, I think we did the same good thing in Puerto Rico, which is actually a much harder situation. (END VIDEO CLIP)
O\'Donnell: The official death toll in Puerto Rico is 64.
But a new Harvard study published in the New England Journal of Medicine shows that Hurricane Maria in Puerto Rico is the deadliest storm in American history and 4,645 people are actually killed by the storm.
According to the study, about onethird of post-
Hurricane deaths are reported to have been caused by delaying or preventing access to health insurance, nearly a tenth of which is due to the hurricane.
Join us now.
Viverto, vice president of strategic engagement for victory projects in Latin America.
Melissa, you have been to Puerto Rico several times since the hurricane.
Is this an amazing number?
Does 4,645 make sense to you? MELISSA MARK-
VIVERTO, vice president of strategic engagement for victory projects in Latin America: Well, according to our understanding-first of all, those of us who are familiar with the issue know that the numbers that the governor of Puerto Rico threw out there are completely wrong.
O\'Donnell: No point at all on the 64 th? MARK-
Viverto: not at all.
If you look at the destruction on the ground, if you walk into towns and mountains, there is no electricity if you understand that there is no communication.
The impact it has on people who rely on electricity for medication or oxygen treatment or access to hospitals where services are absolutely unavailable, and the impact it has.
So this is shocking and should be shocking and I\'m glad you can cover it.
But it does illustrate what many of us have been saying, the US government, in terms of the federal government and the island government, is completely negligent.
Due to this negligence, it is unacceptable that we see an increase in the number of deaths.
O\'Donnell: The aftercare work is also included, because people who do not have access to health care in the aftercare work, because of the lack of supplies, many cases are short of water for a long time, dehydration like this can complicate every disease of anyone. MARK-VIVERTO: Right.
Your path is indestructible.
You can\'t pass because there are-debris and mudslides that are happening.
You have the hospital in the power plant, the hospital on the generator, and the power has been cut off.
So it\'s serious.
Obviously, we see this in the results.
In fact, this report has come out now, which means there are ways we can get to some reporting levels earlier.
But the government of Puerto Rico and the President of this government do not want information.
I think this is -.
O\'Donnell: What is the motivation of the Puerto Rican government to not find or publish real figures? MARK-
You have to ask him.
But there have been lawsuits, and investigators on the island have brought the government to court.
The court\'s decision was in their favor.
Is it trying to access unavailable government data?
So again, it shows that the government of Puerto Rico and the government of President Donald Trump are also negligent.
Melissa Mark O\'Donnell
The last sentence tonight is Viverto.
Thank you very much. MARK-
VIVERTO: Thank you very much.
We really appreciate it.
O\'Donnell: We\'ll be back soon. (
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O\'Donnell: it\'s time for the last sentence tonight. (
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Trump: I can stay for hours and shake hands with people like 1,100, what should I do? I will stay.
Oh, who?
He will stay.
It was amazing, he lined up for everyone to hold his little hand.
It\'s like a game show every day.
There is a bronze statue depicting a soldier named tecumska (ph)at the academy. It is very old.
Some people think that tecumska (ph)
Power, magical power, including the ability to have the president of the United States falsely declare his name in a special edition of the drunken Donald Trump in Annapolis.
Trump: from all
Powerful technology (ph). (END VIDEO CLIP)
O\'Donnell: taikangsa (ph)
This is the last sentence tonight.
Andrea Mitchell and Brian discuss the Trump administration\'s discussion with Brian Williams on North Korea within 11 hours and start the discussion now.
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