Trump pushing to restart separation policy. TRANSCRIPT: 4/8/19, All In w/ Chris Hayes. - at home skin care devices

Chris Matthews, MSNBC host: keep thinking.
The important thing is the pickup leader, not just the protesters like Donald Trump.
The biggest threat now.
Chris Hayes's "everything is ready" starts now. (
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Chris Hayes, MSNBC host: all in tonight.
Stephen Miller, senior adviser to President Donald Trump's policy: the president's power to protect our country is enormous and will not be questioned. HAYES: A full-
The Department of Homeland Security is cleaning.
Miller: It's a big deal.
Hayes: The president reportedly handed over the immigration policy to Stephen Miller and ordered the extension and expansion of family separation.
Kirstjen nielsen, former Secretary of Homeland Security: The government has not set a family separation policy at the border.
Hayes: Tonight, 2020 candidate Kamala Harris is leaving and what will happen next. SEN. KAMALA HARRIS (D-CA)
Presidential candidate: are you against the trauma of separating your child from your parents?
Hayes: unidentified men at the time: do you think Democrats will never see the return of President Stark?
White House acting chief of staff Mick muwani: Oh no, never.
Hayes: Democrats are using new tactics to get tax returns from Donald Trump.
In addition, the president's remarks about a group of Jewish Americans have aroused new anger.
US President Donald Trump: I stand with the premier of the White House.
Hayes: Why does Beto o'lock insist on his description of the president's dark remarks about immigration. BETO O`ROURKE (D)
Presidential candidate: We may hear this in Nazi Germany.
Hayes: everything is starting now. (END VIDEO CLIP)
Hayes: Good evening. This is Chris Hayes.
His most radical anti-incitement
The immigration adviser president is now clearing the top of the Department of Homeland Security in order to appoint officials who obey the president's illegal orders in order to exert the greatest cruelty to those seeking asylum in the United States. S.
The most prominent official stood in the position of cleaned Homeland Security Minister Kirstjen Nielsen, who became the face of the government's notorious hateful child separation policy.
She has been picking water for the president, lying to Congress and the public, and has repeatedly insisted that there is no such policy. (
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Nelson: The government has not made a policy of family separation at the border.
Similarly, we do not have a policy of separating our children from our parents.
Our policy is that we will sue you if you break the law.
You said I was a liar. I`m not a liar.
We have never had the experience of family separation. (END VIDEO CLIP)
Hayes: they do have a policy of family separation.
Senator Jeff Merck got his hand in the memo.
He will be with me in a minute.
But while Nielsen has tried his best to defend Trump's policies, even when they are horrible, and defend his wall, he does not seem to be authoritarian enough about the president.
According to the New York Times, the president called Nelson early in the morning and asked her to take action to prevent immigrants from entering the country, including doing something obviously illegal, such as preventing all immigrants from seeking asylum.
Nielsen reportedly backed down.
NBC News reported that she also resisted the president's efforts to restore his child separation policy, a policy that shesaid did not exist again and again, and reminded him that last year the court ordered the ban.
On the other hand, it is reported that when Border Patrol personnel used tear gas to repel large crowds trying to break through the border fence, Nelson and the president regained their footing, trump said he wants the Secretary of Homeland Security to take such tough action.
Apparently not cruel enough.
Nielsen went out with several other senior Department of Homeland Security officials, including the United States. S.
It is reported that more officials are now expected to join, including the general counsel for the department and the head of the US intelligence service. S.
The Citizenship and Immigration Service, Deputy Minister of management, is currently replacing Nelson as secretary.
All these cleanings, there is no better word, which may pave the way for the president to install his chosen successor, who appears to be Kevin mcalinan, the current head of Customs and Border Patrol, according to NBC News, he does not rule out family separation
The entire purge appears to have been planned by a 33-year-old president. year-
Old senior advisor Stephen Miller has long openly dreamed of bending all American immigrants. S.
Not authorized immigration.
When the top members of the Department of Homeland Security are cleared, Miller is now free to dominate the government's immigration policy.
According to The Wall Street Journal, a government official said the president recently told Miller that you were in charge.
Now, it all happens in the context of a real surge in the number of children and families in Central America crossing the southern border, most of which are asylum seekers.
But instead of proposing plans to deal with the surge, Miller and the president chose to intensify their atrocities. (
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Trump: whether it's asylum or whatever you want, it's illegal immigration and we can't take you there anymore.
We can't take you.
Our country is full, our region is full, and the industry is full.
We can't bring you any more. I`m sorry.
This is impossible. So turn around.
This is the case. (END VIDEO CLIP)
Hayes: MSNBC's Jacob Sobolov has been covering the president's child separation policy since the beginning.
He's also covering what's going on at the border.
Jacob, Nelson, no matter what happens, has publicly passed her voice, repeatedly being one of the loudest advocates of some of the president's most notorious policies on immigration.
MSNBC reporter Jacob Sobolov: she should get some comments today because she postponed President Trump's plan to restart family separation, which is a joke.
I mean, after President Trump ended the separation I saw with my own eyes at the McAllen Border Patrol processing station, I heard Chris again and again, on her team,
They regret signing the executive order because they feel they are close to the basic policy goal, which is still the goal supported by Kevin mcalinan, first, to support the family in prison, they were detained throughout the asylum process and then immediately turned around, young, undocumented, unaccompanied minions and they sent them home to the United States in the first place. S. soil.
Hayes: it's worth taking the time to say that the child separation policy is not over yet and that the runes of morality and humanity still exist.
This is some of the most recent headlines. The U. S.
He said it could take two years to identify as many as thousands of discrete immigrant families.
These are courses that start before the official start of the policy.
Huffington Post has published an article about Trump's way of life after a year of zero
Tolerant of immigration policies, families that say their children are attracted to, frustration and selfharming.
SOBOROFF: So the 65 children we know from the zero tolerance period have been in federal custody and have been reunited.
On top of that, the HHS are thousands of people in the office of the inspector general who think we might be separated.
As you said on Friday, we learned from this court document filed by the Federal Court that eventually all these children will be reunited, or at least identify them, then figure out if they need a reunion, maybe two
When you play the clip the president said, sorry, we're full.
That's it. Turn around.
Some of the president's new tough rhetoric is ridiculous.
This is always the message. HAYES: Right.
SOBOROFF: it did not act as a deterrent during the separation period, nor did it apply to the remaining policy in Mexico, which, by the way, was put on hold by the court today.
Whatever ridiculous extreme immigration policy they came up with, it won't work anymore.
Hayes: this is-the basic dynamics you point out here-this is the fundamental problem here, you are right, the policy that a judge has blocked Mexico today is that these people escape from real pain and despair and in some cases you may describe his horror, just the murder rate and the like.
So the president and Steven Miller wanted to scare them away, they got into a battle you know, and the fear of the most notorious street gang in the Western Hemisphere was a tough battle of victory.
SOBOROFF: why is anyone surprised by this?
President Trump says Mexicans are rapists and criminals, his first moment as a candidate.
He did not focus on the number one source for undocumented immigrants, who he said had spent too long on their way to the United States.
Walls are not needed to stop this type of immigration.
Those with brown skin, he says, look different from him and they cross the southern border because he's obsessed with it and he thinks it's the way he wins the election. The real-
To be frank, I have witnessed with my own eyes that the results of the world are despicable.
He just wanted everyone to know that he was a huge fan of them.
Hayes: OK, Jacob Sobolov, as always, thank you.
My Next Guest launched his own investigation to help blow the whistle on the government's child separation policy.
Before we get to know what's going on today and what's going on next, just to get us to re-play Kirstjen Nielsen's lies about our lack of such policies.
She was sworn in before Congress and the American public again and again.
I mean, you got the documents that prove it was a lie. SEN. JEFF MERKLEY (D-OR): Absolutely.
It is disturbing to see an American official lying to the American people.
Now, it does not exist in this government.
What we saw from Trump
We have seen it officially.
But in this case, there isdocumentedpath.
In fact, when they started talking publicly about children's separation, they were only two weeks away from the government.
As you pointed out, there were thousands of children separated from their parents before Jeff Sessions introduced zero tolerance.
So she lied to the American people.
She has been responsible for the darkest and most evil policies that we have seen in the United States for a long time.
I'm glad she left.
She should have resigned in the protest.
What's happening now?
I mean, obviously, a lot of people like you are asking her to leave.
But how did today's news get on Capitol Hill?
Rarely do we see a complete purge of federal institutions like the beheading of political leadership we see.
When your colleagues and yourself look at this, what is the word on Capitol Hill?
MERKLEY: Well, people are getting ready for the upcoming fight because the president wants someone who is worse than Kirstjen Nielsen.
Kevin mccullinan, who is responsible for some of these policies.
He has been responsible for blocking international rights to seek asylum on the border.
Children often do not have access to any form of asylum-seeking.
He was responsible for the separation of the child before.
Henow had the idea that I would call it selective trauma because he said maybe the family had to choose and maybe I could have them make a choice between being locked in an intern camp or being separated from the child.
What trauma do you want to cause to your child is what he advocates.
We will have a big fight on this issue.
Hayes: Well, you may be in a fight, or the president may be trying to put an end to the proposals and provisions of the Constitution, because he did these things in many other places, if he just raised the issue of what he seemed to be doing intentionally, and then never came to the Senate with the nominee, apparently he did something at the Department of Defense.
Merck: the funding bill on how the president spends money will be the focus of the battle.
It will go to court.
So no matter what strategy the president chooses to strengthen the intern camp in the United States or strengthen the separation of children, we will be in a battle.
These have done so much harm to the children.
There is also a good alternative, called the family case management program, which costs less and people will seriously consider the hearing, which the president says he wants to do.
Hayes: I 'd like to read the report that the president ordered agents behind the scenes during his visit last week.
He told the border people not to let the immigrants in and told them that we were not capable.
If the judge is in trouble for you, say sorry for the judge. I can't do it.
We have no room.
The president seems to be openly looking for people who are genuinely disobedient and break the law for him.
What are you going to do about this? MERKLEY: Yes.
Well, that's why it's going to unfold in every tool, funding war, court War, and public relations war that we have.
I was on the Tijuana border a few weeks ago.
I went to seven shelters at the border.
I met with families who were rejected again and again at the border.
They are allowed to enter their names in a book in which, after a few weeks, they may get a credible fear hearing.
But those under the age of 18 are not even allowed to write their names in the book.
They are some of the most dangerous streets in the world, and it is a terrible thing in different border towns on our southern border.
As a result, they end up having to choose to be in danger on the streets of the sex industry, gang industry, kidnapping, brutality, rape or illegal crossing the border.
So the president is actually inspiring people by blocking access.
He encouraged people to cross between ports of entry, which is exactly the opposite of what he told the American people. HAYES: Right.
Senator Jeff Merck has been following this issue since the beginning, and thank you very much.
Thank you, Chris.
Hayes: nanett Baragan, a California congressman, joined me.
She is part of the House Homeland Security Committee and has just returned from the El Paso border in Texas, which is not her first trip to the border.
What is your reaction to what is happening today and what will this administration try to do? REP.
Narnett Balagan (D-CA)
: Well, I think it shows how much confusion is going on with the Department of Homeland Security and how much confusion the organization is.
What I care about is, of course, what will happen in the future.
As you mentioned this weekend, I'm right at the border and the heartbreaking I see there.
We saw some pictures of families being held under this bridge and everyone thought the problem had been solved.
This is not the case.
What I saw there was simply moved to another place.
They have three tents, but you have four more. month-
The old children in these tents lived outside in the same clothes for a few days.
Totally acceptable.
Hayes: Well, that's the argument that the government has put forward, not just the government, and I want you to respond to that, which is basically that we don't have the system's ability to deal with the numbers at the moment, especially for our children.
We have a system that is basically used to arrest and deal with single men who are trying to cross unauthorized.
We now have family and asylum applications.
What do we need to do?
What do you say?
BARRAGAN: Well, Congress has just allocated $0. 415 billion in humanitarian relief, and I don't know where the money went.
I certainly didn't see it working at the border this weekend.
This is a question we need to ask as we give them money so we need to make sure we follow up.
You see, we are in the United States of America.
They need to find humane ways to treat people on the border, which is the bottom line.
Hayes: you-I want to play-read you something-some of the reports about Stephen Miller are all about what he called mid recently --
According to two people familiar with the matter, several federal department and agency level officials angrily asked them to do more to stop the flow of immigrants in the country.
According to a person familiar with the matter, some officials sometimes discuss the poor performance of colleagues.
How many cars do you think he drove? What does that mean if he drives?
BARRAGAN: Well, I think that means we're going to have a big fight.
I think that means Congress has to go ahead with the oversight hearings and we have to go ahead and fight because if he leads all this and that's what we're all listening to then we're in trouble.
I mean, this is someone who doesn't believe in the value of immigration, and we saw and heard some reports with our own eyes.
If they try to re-
Implementing this zero tolerance policy, when we pass the appropriations act and the Department of Homeland Security, we will have to give our full support to this government, and instead, the Homeland Security Committee will have to continue these oversight hearings.
We plan to have minister Nelson again come to our committee in May 1 to discuss the budget.
It looks like maybe we'll also see the new acting secretary coming and we have to ask those tough questions.
Hayes: Are you worried that the government might be trying to do something legally and not actually being blunt about what they are doing?
Absolutely.
We must have let the secretary lie to Congress.
When I went to the border, we had officials lying to me.
I 've spent enough time at the border to see what's going on, and even though we hear different voices, people are still traveling long distances at the port of entry.
Now, this weekend, we had a CBP that basically admitted that they had rejected people at the port of entry and talked about the list.
They also told me that they are implementing the remaining Mexican policy that started the previous week.
I'm going to talk to one of them. he's the architect of D. C.
On the ground there.
So I'm glad to see the court say no today, you won't do that.
But there is no doubt that this is a government that does what they can, not just a fundamental disregard of the law, this is where we are so critical and where congressional oversight is essential, and we have to continue, don't relax on this issue.
Hayes: Well, it's nice to have you, Senator narnett Baragan from California.
Representative: Thank you.
Hayes: after the break, she was the first senator to call for the resignation of Homeland Security Nelson, and Kamala Harris talked about today's major developments and what will happen in two minutes. (
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Harris: your agent will separate the child from the parent.
What we have to do is sue parents who break the law like we do in America every day.
Harris: I appreciate it.
But if parents have four childrenyear-
Old boy, what are you going to do to that child?
Nelson: according to the law, this child needs to be cared for and supervised by HHS.
They will be separated from their parents.
Nelson: as we do every day in the United States.
Harris: So the question is, ask us for information on how you train, and the agreement to separate the child from the parent.
Nelson: I am happy to provide you with training information.
Harris: Thank you. (END VIDEO CLIP)
Hayes: about a month later, HHS Secretary kirstjen Nielsen claimed that the Trump administration did not separate families on the southern border as a policy, and California Democrat Kamala Harris became the first senator to call for Nelson's resignation, among other things, she cited her misleading reference to the Trump administration's separation of immigrant children from their parents on the border
Now with me is Senator Kamala Harris, California's 2020 presidential candidate.
Good to have you, Senator.
Nice to be with you, Chris.
Hayes: Well, you asked this question in June or I think it was in 2018, and you got it today, but I'm curious about you on the day she actually lost her job.
Look, I asked her to resign.
I still believe she shouldn't be in that position, and it's clear she's gone, but Chris, it's very important that we understand this-it's a policy of the government, she has implemented and is clearly prepared to do so, but that is the policy of the government.
You know, not only one person should be blamed or held accountable, this is the whole government and all the people involved in this government's policy on the isolation of children in the border.
Frankly, this is a lie about eternity, what is the essence around this issue, and it's actually just a political game, the president is instigating fear around a real humanitarian issue in our country.
We will have to address this at all levels, but there are also-it's not just about who is the next secretary of the Department of Homeland Security.
It's about a government that fails to show the morality and values of our country, but rather a political game around a problem that has a real impact on very vulnerable people.
Hayes: I want to talk about how to solve this problem because he said we have to solve it.
But it's just a little follow.
I mean, Nielsen's report was basically fired because she was reluctant to break the law in fact.
The president ordered something against the law.
He drove her away.
It is expected that the president will push this forward.
I think as a lawyer, as a former justice minister and prosecutor, the question you know is, for example, how do you see what to do when they try to actually break the law?
Harris: Well, there are consequences.
Obviously, first of all, the court is taking action on the constitutional aspects of these various policies from the government.
Congress also needs to bear some consequences and responsibility.
I really hope that my Republican colleagues will agree that we cannot continue to work through this department to develop policies that truly violate the human rights of the people.
When we talk about asylum, we are talking about people who fled the world and murdered the capital.
According to this government, we are prepared to ignore those who seek help and shelter.
You will see the lies that have always existed and the direction of the priorities.
This government visit to Calexico, Chris, I have been to Calexico, California.
Let me tell you something they are talking about building what he calls a fence of "walls", a vanity project.
I can tell you that what I see when I go to California is the tunnel.
So how will they deal with tunnels, fences, or walls, or what they call it.
Just-this is a complete distraction from the need for a productive approach and good public policy around a problem, including the fact that if we want to focus on prevention, part of what we need to do, in the short and long term, is humanitarian assistance, the assistance we provide in the North Triangle. This government is now cut off.
Such assistance has many purposes, including a focus on the economic development potential of these countries, assistance as a focus, and a potential focus on reducing corruption in those countries.
But we gave up on this, the people who refused and refused to flee.
So, there doesn't seem to be any logic beyond the humanitarian crisis.
Hayes: So this is 100 percent correct when you talk about aid.
We have-I think the Trump administration has reduced aid to the three countries of El Salvador, Honduras and Guatemala in the Northern Triangle every year.
If you are the president now, let's say, or when something like this comes up, we are the presidents of the future-because what the government says seems to exist, besides the rise in numbers, and there is what should be done in terms of the humanitarian capacity of the current bureaucracy for families and young children?
What is the project you want to see here?
Harris: Well, yes. -that's more than one.
A two-pronged approach is needed.
So both of these are about reconstruction assistance so we can deal with the long term
The long-term effects of the crisis, hoping to mitigate or reduce it, are the reasons why people have fled these countries.
With aid, we have the potential to reduce where they have to flee.
What we need to do in the short term is to have a strong way to deal with asylum applications so that we can give people a meaningful process to tell their stories about the harm they are fleeing
We should also talk about the policies they have put in place and say that Mexico should deal with the people.
Well, many of them have also experienced injuries during their trip to Mexico, but we are holding back and saying that it is wrong to go back to Mexico when we deal with your case, it's also a wrong policy.
So, in the long run, there are many things that have to be done, both to prevent and to address the current humanitarian problems that require a humanitarian response.
This is not what we see.
We have seen a government taking a positive attitude towards vulnerable groups and seeking help from our country.
This does not reflect who we are or who we should be as a country that has said that we will accept and receive those who have fled the harm.
Hayes: The government believes that I understand why there is a reason to doubt their sincerity, but their argument is not that it is independent, but that it is a deterrent, right.
Basically they try to send a signal to the Northern Triangle and you can't do that.
In this case, what do you think of the logic of deterrence?
People are fleeing murder and murder.
The environment in which people are fleeing hurts them more than they experienced when they came to the border.
It's just-it's actually just that it's wrong.
They were there and they said it was wrong.
In fact, Beno's deterrent will be equivalent to a deterrent in a country where they may be killed.
This is the biggest deterrent on the map right now.
So they flee these places in the hope that they can have a complete process through which they can get some sort of refuge and security and we should give it to them. HAYES: Right.
Senator Kamala Harris, thank you very much for taking the time.
Come back-come back.
We hope you can come.
Harris: Thank you. Thank you.
Hayes: Next, the White House gave up the game of issuing the presidential tax return, but Democrats have a new plan, which is the next step. (
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Hayes: The White House doesn't even pretend they have any interest in complying with Donald Trump's tax returns.
With Mueller's report, there is at least such behavior, oh yes you will get it and it will come.
But this week's acting chief of staff, Mick muwani, is very outspoken, and this is not the case with Trump's tax issue. (
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Do you think Democrats will never see the return of the president?
Mick muwani, acting White House chief of staff: Oh no, never, they shouldn't.
Please keep in mind that this is an issue that has been brought up during the election.
Voters know the president could have given him a tax return.
They knew he didn't, and they chose him anyway, which of course is why Democrats are crazy. (END VIDEO CLIP)HAYES: OK.
In fact, it did not bring a lawsuit in the election, because the United States law did not bring a lawsuit in the election, and the law was clear and unambiguous.
I quote him, at the written request of the chairman of the house method committee, "the Secretary shall provide the committee with any return or return information specified in that request. ” “Shall. Any return.
The Trump administration will now try to resolve the issue in the Supreme Court and in the Supreme Court judges, so now New York State is passing a new plan to allow Congress to get Trump's tax revenue into the euro zone.
Now with me, New York politician Brad Holman, the one who sponsored the Donald Trump tax bill.
Thank you, senator, for joining us.
What is the plan here? STATE SEN. BRAD HOYLMAN, (D)
New York: Well, Chris, our plan is that we are creating a parallel route that the Committee on Ways and Means of the house has with the federal government of New York state, they can request this information from New York state, including Donaldson Trump's tax returns and corporate tax returns, and receive this information.
Hayes: So you will pass a law saying that the chairman of the Committee of Waysand Means can apply to the state of New York for any tax returns?
This will be state law.
Then turn the chairs over if they ask?
Is that how it works?
Holman: That's right, Chris.
You know, it's really not a big deal.
New York state has always done so.
The state provides tax declaration information for New York to the IRS.
They offer it to other states.
So this is just another version, but the three committees can request this information at the federal level.
Hayes: Are you worried about this abuse?
You can imagine politicians in the political arena would want to pick out a particular person, perhaps the president, for all sorts of bad reasons, and try to embarrass them after their tax returns.
You can imagine a Tea Party convention trying to get George Soros and so on.
Are you concerned about this as a broader principle?
Hayes: of course, I don't think anyone believes in the IRS, but I think we do trust our Congress and we also believe that we have put in place a protection mechanism in this legislation, at the request of these committees, the state Department of the United States will have to sign, and I am sure it will hopefully end the kind of fishing expedition you have suggested.
HOYLMAN: I want to play for you what Mitt Romney says about businesses that make the president's taxes fundamentally a partisan business.
You're a Democrat yourself. Take a listen.
I want your reply. (
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Utah: I think Democrats are just playing with the alonghis manual, which tracks his tax returns through a legislative action.
This will not happen. (END VIDEO CLIP)
Hayes: What do you think?
HOYLMAN: Well, I think he's wrong in a few ways.
First, I don't think it's stupid. I want to know the truth.
Secondly, I think this will happen.
Just tonight Governor cuomo announced his support for my legislation.
So we have a lot of support for this legislation in Albany.
Hayes: What's the stakes?
I mean, to some extent, the stakes of the parties are obvious.
I think Democrats suspect there is bad criminal information in the president's taxes.
In the broader sense of democracy, what do you think is the stakes?
Why is it important to promote this?
HOYLMAN: Well, the stakes are the rule of law.
The rule of law needs to be applied on average to everyone, even the occupants of the highest positions on the land.
After all, we New Yorkers have a special role where Donald Trump lives in New York state and does business here, but there is also a special responsibility, Chris, to make sure that our congressional delegates can supervise.
Hayes: So you think it's essentially helping Congress, too.
An equal struggle with the first branch? Holman: that's true.
I mean, you can argue that we may avoid a constitutional showdown by intervening in a breach of contract and have New York do what the IRS will not do.
Hayes: Okay.
New York senator Brad Holman, thank you very much.
HOYLMAN: Thank you for inviting me.
Hayes: in front, oruk compared the president's comments on immigration with those of the Third Reich.
We will discuss it in advance.
In addition, the first thing tonight, the second thing, the second thing. (
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Hayes: one thing tonight, a big part of the reason Donald Trump became our president is because a lot of people think the TV character Donald Trump is real, of course, thanks to the years he spent on national television on our parent network, he has established a reputation for being successful.
Make a tough tycoon, don't be afraid to make a tough call when a tough call needs to be made. (
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You were fired. You`re fired. You`re fired. You`re fired.
You're all fired. You`re fired. You`re fired. You`re fired. Go.
You're fired, simbada.
Goldberg, you're fired. Epi (ph)
I have to say you were fired too. (END VIDEO CLIP)
You're fired, simbada.
Most of us now know that reality show Trump is not exactly what we get.
As you can see again today, there seems to be some stage fright when deploying that famoustag line.
It's the second one in 60 seconds. (
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Hayes: In the more than two years of the Trump administration, there was so much turnover that The Washington Post was forced to make this image that it looked like a car-skiing game, ladders and people who will never restore their reputation.
This is actually the 2017 package through Randolf "Tex" Alles, director of secret services, all the timelines for leaving the inauguration.
Quoting this sentence, many of these people are now fired, but not many have seen the reality show host Post his iconic phrase "you were fired, because the man who always said he was a TV character was invented.
In real life, as a senior administration official told New York magazine, Trump avoided conflict.
He hates firing people.
He knew he had to fire each of them, but he could not let himself do so.
That's why former Secretary of State Rex Tillerson learned that he was fired, and under the leadership of John Kelly, he and Secretary of the Veterans Administration David schurkin announced his successor, white House lawyer Don McGahn also received a tweet from viaTrump that Kirstjen Nielsen was reportedly preparing to announce her resignation when Trump beat her, and you guessed it, a girl who announced she was leaving.
Trump invited an assistant fire chief, Sally Yates, via email, to be very tough.
Preet Bharara was fired by Deputy Attorney General Dana boenton on the phone.
After a hard conversation on Twitter for a year, it was John Kelly who fired Jeff Sessions for Tegra, Antoine kalamucci who fired Jeff seshen, Omar
James Comey and Andrew mckerby saw them fired on the news.
Perhaps the most striking fashion, Reince Priebus, remember that person?
I forgot that guy.
The guy, when everyone else jumped out of his SUV and the president's motorcade moved on without him, sent a message. (
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Are you ready?
You want me to do that. -Are you fired? Ready?
Are you fired? Ready?
Man: Yes.
You were fired!
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Hayes: earlier this year, you may remember that Umar, a Democratic congressman from Minnesota, was heavily criticized for pointing out what she said, "the political influence of the country said, it is OK to promote allegiance to foreign countries.
Omar is talking about Israel.
She was condemned by members of both parties for her alleged involvement in the fight against corruption.
The Jews are fundamentally disloyal citizens.
Omar made a clear apology two days later.
Now, there is no such apology from Donald Trump, who quoted all the back in a book in 1991, saying, "Black people count my money and I hate it.
The only person I want to count my money is a short man wearing a yar hat every day.
Trump later officially said that the content of the book may be true.
As early as 2015, Trump had said this to the Republican Jewish Union. (
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Trump: even though you know I'm the best thing that could happen in Israel, you won't support me.
That's how I am.
I know why you don't support me, you know, you won't support me because I don't want your money.
You want to control your politicians. That`s fine. Good.
But I think about it, guys.
Don't worry. (END VIDEO CLIP)
Do you understand?
You Jews don't support me because I don't want your money, you Jews, you like to support and control your own politicians.
This weekend, Trump returned to the Republican Jewish Union and to the Republican Jewish Union.
Just a day ago, one of his supporters was arrested for threatening to kill her, and he criticized Ilhan Omar, a congressman, as Ahmed of Israel.
Trump has said more than once that American Jews in the audience are loyal to foreign countries. (
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Trump: I stand with your prime minister at the White House and recognize Israel's sovereignty over the Golan Heights. (END VIDEO CLIP)
You got it, right?
Your prime minister.
Your prime minister.
He's talking to American Jews.
He's their president.
This is a clear requirement of double loyalty.
Trump is actually telling American Jews that they think Benjamin.
But this is not the most aggressive thing he has said in the last 72 hours.
The president's ugly words and the darkest chapter in history are the next. (
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Reporter: You compare the Trump administration to Nazi Germany.
Can you elaborate on that?
Why are you comparing this?
2020 Democratic presidential candidate Orlock: Well, I compared what the president might have heard during the Third Reich. in Nazi Germany, we may have heard this saying that human beings are an intrusion, describing migrants with a record of violent crimes as rapists and criminals, trying to expel all Muslims, all people who believe in one religion, and other countries on earth will do such things, or in our human history, or in the history of the Western world? (END VIDEO CLIP)
Hayes: Presidential candidate Bento o'lock insists on comparing the president's remarks, particularly those of immigrants, with those of the Nazi regime.
While the comparison of the Nazis is treacherous, in fact, the Nazis talk about the Jews and about other groups they persecuted, such as pests and animals.
President Trump said on Twitter that immigrants are pouring into our country and posing a threat to our country.
Trump talked about the invasion.
He's usually in MS-
13, but usually only enough ambiguity to make the dehumanizing poison of the word more widely pollute immigrants.
At this moment, there is a further historical resonance as we observe the launch of the border policy.
The modern asylum law was largely a reaction to the moral disaster of the Second World War, when the images of Jews fleeing the Nazi regime were in the Holy.
In 1939, Louis was told that the country was basically full. Go away.
They were then sent back to Europe and many were slaughtered. (
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Trump: The system is full.
I can't take you anymore.
Whether it's asylum or whatever you want, it's illegal immigration and can't take you away anymore.
We can't take you.
Our country is full.
Our area is full.
The sector is full.
I can't take you anymore. I`m sorry. Can`t happen.
So, turn around, that's it. (END VIDEO CLIP)
Hayes: more information on the potential impact of this kind of speech, especially in conjunction with the president's policy, I would like to have Michelle Goldberg, political analyst at MSNBC
Ed columnist for The New York Times, who has a new column on Kirstjen Nielsen;
She is the chief communications officer of immigration advocacy and legal services organization RAICES.
Erica, as someone who works through these crowds-I know that RAICESrepresents represent many of them.
I have been to the border and talked to the lawyers there. what's the use of this sentence?
What does this mean for people who are really controversial?
Erica andiola, chief communications officer at RAICES: Yes, I mean, it's beyond words.
This really changed the policy.
As you mentioned, I heard a lot of people at the border.
For us, you know, more and more people are being sent back to Mexico by returning to Mexico policy, or children who are still separated from their parents, or more children are being held in detention centers with their parents.
I mean, you give it a name.
I can go on with all the different policies that he has changed, not necessarily just like-you know, of course, from this completely racist perspective, but his words are beyond that.
People will surely feel that the result of administration is hatred of people of color.
Hayes: You know, I have someone who picked up the original Beto O'Rourke line, and this is the exchange of other things in Iowa, I think-I forgot where, somewhere in the campaign-they blew it up like a gotcha, like he compared Trump to-I think Orlock Dida did a really good job there, he said . . . . . . Michelle Goldberg of The New York Times: What he said is undoubtedly
There is no doubt that it is not just Nazi Germany, but also the pioneers of genocide we know, a bit like you said, comparing people to animals and pests to pests.
Again, I think the fact that conservatives are trying to make scandals out of it, I mean, part of it is just malicious, and I think part of it is, the traditional language of American politics cannot describe what this administration is and what it is doing.
Hayes: I also think-Erica, I want to know, you know, I 've heard a lot of stories-I know there are a lot of people working in customs and border patrol and they're all very nice people, there are good values, but you 've heard stories from some CBP members who really use dehumanizing and racist language for the people they're dealing with, and I'm curious how much that really is, how many permissions are given to those who are at the front end of implementing this policy to have them play some kind of game against one of their worst prejudices?
Andy Ola: of course.
I mean, not only did he have a huge impact on CBP and border patrol, I mean, in general-Immigration and Customs Enforcement, ICE, in general, trump's followers have really put his narrative into action.
And, you know, unfortunately, we have seen that this has not only had an impact on the treatment of immigrants, as they have been in cages, spent many days in the parking lot with the kids, but it was just over and over again, and we saw more deaths at the border, in the hands of the Border Patrol.
Like I said, you know, it's not just a story.
I totally agree.
You know, the president used his words. I agree with Bento.
He used a lot of white supremacist narratives and language to describe our community, which not only changed policy but also changed people's minds, and unfortunately a lot of people were hurt as a result
Hayes: I also feel that we have forgotten the lessons of the World War-I mean, both at home and at the international level, the modern asylum law is about what happened in the second world war. Goldberg: Yes.
I think what we forget is that there is a little bit of nothing that can be done by the people that happened in World War II, it just happened to these people, right.
If you're an average German, you're living your life most of the time, and it doesn't look as serious as an emergency, right?
Similar atrocities take place far away from the marginalized, you know, there are a lot of people, you know, if they raise too many concerns about it, it's going to be considered hysterical.
Hayes: or in the United StatesS.
If you go back and read the holy.
Louis, it was reported at the time, and it was said that we should let these people know.
They are desperate.
Some people say that there may be subversive elements and criminals in it.
Do we really want these people?
Do we really want these people in? Goldberg: Yes.
One more thing, I mean, we forgot about what the SS had done repeatedly, and that was that they always had special chapters on Jewish crime.
This obsession-you know, as trumpdo did with this possible structure of Angel Mom.
You know, they're basically going to say it's a special category, Jewish crime, though you know, Jews are not known for being specific criminals.
But it is a sign of demonization and dehumanization and a precursor to atrocities.
Just today, there is news that Trump is now desperate to admit family separation, but you have expanded the topic of family separation that has not been affected before.
You can only do this if you don't think they are complete humans.
Hayes: Erica, I mean, I think there are two ways to see this kind of speech, one is that it's further dehumanizing and the other is that it's reacting, and I think, we see a moral aversion when children are separated.
If you look at the public opinion polls in the United States, it may be more supportive.
It's immigration now, at least in the past few years.
I want to know what you think.
Yes, this is the case, and now Trump is talking to his own audience.
You know, Trump is trying to build up his base.
Make sure they come out and vote and make sure they don't support him here in 2020.
Everything he does now is political. It really is.
I mean, it happened on 2018.
A caravan came.
Oh, my God, people will be afraid.
After the election, he stopped talking about the real fleet.
So this will continue to happen.
What I really hope is that we can get more and more bases from our it voters, for those who don't really understand the issue, on the human side, make sure we have different 2020 voters and we have different countries after 2020.
Okay, Michelle Goldberg and Erica Andola, thank you both.
It's here tonight.
The Rachel Mado show starts right away.
Good evening, Rachel.
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